SW1 wrote:Jake 1992
Why does it need to have 96 is that because that’s whats on a n American ship? Personally I don’t see having 48 silos on type 45 as a problem at all. Type 26 will have 48 caam missile and 24 mk41 launchers and I believe the aus one has 8 traditional anti ship missile box launchers also. That is far above anything we’ve ever deployed before. It must also be remembered any environment it’s going to enter which may have such a threat it won’t be alone there will be multiple ships with it.
I may not have made this point clear I’m not taking sensors away to make a type 31 it’s something completely different to what type 26 looks like. The sensor comment was more the integration of a more advanced radar system like the Australian CEAFAR2 Radar to take over the aaw mission and integration of it with the standard RN cms.
Bare bones is bare bones do you need more than 4 escorts per carrier if they were all as capable as type 26? If your escorts are no longer doing single ship deployments and the RN deployment is now centred on carrier group operations do the numbers change.
Ultimately we come up to the realities of a finite budget, we would all like more money but it simpley won’t be happening so cloth has to be cut accordingly.
I'm surgesting 96 mk41s to allow it to carry enough AAW missiles to deal with a constant barrage for a sistained time, which I believe the 48 on the T45 current would struggle to manage. The 96 also allows it to carry other missiles ( aint sub, ain't ship, land strike ) something the T45 currently can't do.
Yes the T26 has far more fire power than any RN ship we've had before but that is because RN have traditionally been very sparsely equipped in that way, instead relying on air power and the subs but that can no longer be the case.
Just look at what other nations are putting in there's look at China Russia India and yes the USA
The hunter class while being better at AAW the our city class is not in the same legue as the T45 let alone what we'd want to replace it.
Yes the city class will have 48 CAMM and 24 mk41 which for an ASW vessel is pretty good load out but not for a AAW vessel.
The hunter class will have 32 mk41 and 8 canister laurcher me but no CAMM.
Yes 14 is the bare bones for the carriers and CASD.
From what I gather you are saying if all the vessels are the same we can drop down to 12 because any can do the job.
In which case you either get less capable ships ( hunter to T45 in AAW ) or each Veseel is vastly more expensive as its the same as combine the T26 and T45 in to one.
Yes we have to live with in a budget but that budget is controlled by politiains so it is not fixed, the politiains need to do one of 2 things either pay to meat there ambitions ( which they should ) or vastly lower there ambitions to meat the budget