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RetroSicotte wrote:manufacturing of the gun/ammo too.
In the long run that is the crux of the matter, not the technical excellence
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RetroSicotte wrote:If they go for the CT40, nice bonus to the UK as well from the shared ownership and manufacturing of the gun/ammo too.
Huge boost for the CT40.

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Qatar now considering the purchase of 9 Hawks, apparently....

https://www.shephardmedia.com/news/trai ... -purchase/

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DIMDEX 2018 news coverage:

DIMDEX 2018: Qatari Navy Showcasing its Future Air Defense LPD
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At DIMDEX 2018, the Doha International Maritime Defence Exhibition & Conference held this week in Qatar, the Qatari Navy was showcasing for the very first time a scale model of its future air defense LPD.
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The LPD design selected by the Qatari Navy has a length of 142.90 meters, a maximum breadth of 21.50 meters, a draft of 5.40 meters for a full load displacement of 8,800 tons.
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In terms of weapon systems, the LPD will be close in configuration to the Kalaat Béni Abbès-class: It will be fitted with a 76mm main gun by Leonardo, 16x VLS cells for ASTER 30 surface to air missiles (by MBDA), four Marlins 30mm remote weapon stations (Leonardo). No anti-ship missile launchers are present on the vessel, however the embarqued NH90 NFH will be able to deploy Marte ER (MBDA).

Leonardo is responsible for the integrated supply of the new naval units’ combat system (Athena), main radar system (Kronos) and on-board sensors and defence sub-systems, including the fire control system. The LPD is set to be fitted with the same L-band radar currently being developed by Leonard for the Italian Navy future LHD.
Four Sylena Mk2 decoy launchers by Lacroix will protect the vessels against anti-ship missile threats.

The LPD was designed to provide long range defense to the future Qatari Navy fleet, and deploy with the corvettes. It will act as the radar node for the air defence corvettes and their ASTER 30 missiles.
http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.ph ... -date.html

DIMDEX 2018: Fincantieri Unveils Qatari Navy OPV Design
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At DIMDEX 2018, the Doha International Maritime Defence Exhibition & Conference currently held in Qatar, Italian shipbuilding group Fincantieri is showcasing for the first time the design of the Offshore Patrol Vessel ordered by the Qatari Navy.
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The OPV design selected by the Qatari Navy has a length of 63 meters, a maximum breadth of 9.20 meters, a draft of 2.60 meters for a full load displacement of 670 tons
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http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.ph ... esign.html

DIMDEX 2018: Fincantieri Unveils Qatari Navy Air Defense Corvette Design
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The corvette design selected by the Qatari Navy has a length of 107 meters, a maximum breadth of 14.70 meters, a draft of 4.20 meters for a full load displacement of 3250 tons.
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In terms of weapon systems, the corvettes will be fitted with a 76mm main gun by Leonardo, 16x VLS cells for ASTER 30 surface to air missiles (by MBDA), two Marlins 30mm remote weapon stations (Leonardo), 8x Exocet MM40 Block III (MBDA) and RAM launcher (21 missiles) by Raytheon for short range air defense.
http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.ph ... esign.html

DIMDEX 2018: BAE Systems Showcasing Type 31e Frigate Design for the 1st Time
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At DIMDEX 2018, the Doha International Maritime Defence Exhibition & Conference currently held in Doha, Qatar, BAE Systems is showcascing for the very first time the proposed design for the Type 31e frigate competition in the UK. BAE Systems has brought together its warship design and engineering capability and combat systems expertise with Cammell Laird, the commercial shipbuilder, in a Teaming Agreement to bid for the contract to deliver Type 31e, the UK’s adaptable general purpose frigate.
http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.ph ... -time.html

DIMDEX 2018: Qatar Inks Contract for 28 NH90 Helicopters
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The Ministry of Defence of Qatar has announced a contract today for the purchase of 28 NH90 medium twin-engine multirole military helicopters. The deal was announced during the DIMDEX Exhibition in Doha in the presence of the Italian Minister of Defence Roberta Pinotti and Leonardo Chief Executive Officer Alessandro Profumo.

The overall programme is valued at more than €3 billion to the NHI consortium, and includes 16 NH90 TTH for land operations, 12 NH90 NFH for naval missions, a comprehensive support, maintenance training services package and associated infrastructure. The programme could be further extended in the future with the addition of 6 + 6 units in a mix of TTH and NFH variants. Leonardo will act as overall prime contractor with responsibility for programme management, final assembly and delivery of the 12 NH90 NFH helicopters from its Venice – Tessera facility in Northern Italy and an eight-year support and training services package for crews and maintenance technicians. Meanwhile Airbus will be responsible for the final assembly of the16 NH90 TTH aircraft. Deliveries are expected to start before June 2022 and to continue through to 2025. Leonardo will also supply, contribute to and integrate various equipment, avionics and sensors.
http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.ph ... pters.html

More news at this link (more will be posted): http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.ph ... -2018.html

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Day 3 (final) video

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The future coastal battery of the Qatari Navy

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One to please, please deliver to British Falkland Islands please.

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Lord Jim wrote:One to please, please deliver to British Falkland Islands please.
But what will they sink? IIRC, ARA mostly don't sail these days. On the other hand, the rest of RNs destroyers and frigates...
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It would put a dent in illegal fishing around the Falklands.

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Lord Jim wrote:It would put a dent in illegal fishing around the Falklands.
Meh, considering that even Argentinian sinking of that Chinese trawler didn't stop them from poaching...
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For the Chinese, you confiscate the trawler and keep it. You need the Exocet for the "Coast Guard", vessel the Chinese will send to protect the next trawler.

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ArmChairCivvy wrote:What turret system will arm the Qatari’s IFV variant is also still unknown. However, it is understood that Nexter trialled the VBCI with its new two-man T40 turret to a Middle East customer in 2015, which was most likely Qatar.
It seems they are going to field a modified unmanned Protector MCT-30 turret from Kongsberg. Armed with a 30 mm cannon (Mk44 or maybe the XM813 variant), two MBDA's MMP antitank missiles and a .50 RWS on top. The video also shows a modified design and states that it will have a lower profile than the original.


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Fincantieri starts work on Qatar first OPV
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The steel cutting ceremony of the first patrol vessel (OPV - Offshore Patrol Vessel) ordered to Fincantieri by the Qatari Ministry of Defence within the national naval acquisition programme, took place today at the Muggiano (La Spezia) yard.
https://www.navalnews.com/news/2019/02/ ... first-opv/

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Looking at that Konigsberg Protector unmanned turret, the CTS consortium really need to look at getting the CFA40 in to a similar mount as many nation seem to want to purchase unmanned turrets with substantially increased firepower over the 12.7mm M2 HMG and CTS are missing out on sales for their weapon system that has better performance that most 30mm and is just as compact or even more so.

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You'd have thought that with the mass roll out of the 40mm system the UK would be looking to spec it on everything instead of continuing with 30mm. Commonality of ammo, training, parts etc.

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Qatar Coast Guard Inaugurates New Naval Base & Fleet
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Qatar inaugurated a large naval base and new additions to its fleet during a ceremony on Sunday 14 July.

The ceremony was held in presence of Prime Minister Abdullah bin Nasser bin Khalifa Al-Thani and commander of US Naval Forces in the Middle East Vice Admiral Jim Malloy.

The new base is located in Al-Daayen, about 30 kilometres North of Doha on Qatar’s eastern coast. Qatar new large gas terminal (and gas fields) is located in the Northern part of Qatar, and one of the main mission of the reinforced Coast Guard will be to secure these important resources.
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/20 ... ase-fleet/

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I can't get over this: "Future Air Defense LPD" - the Qataris are putting Aster 30 on their LPD!

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The LPD is part of an integrated Flotilla they bought from Italy I believe, and the LPD was the obvious platform to provide area air defence. Don't the corvettes have Aster 15 on board?

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Lord Jim wrote:The LPD is part of an integrated Flotilla they bought from Italy I believe, and the LPD was the obvious platform to provide area air defence. Don't the corvettes have Aster 15 on board?
Pretty sure they have ASTER 30 across all platforms in the contract (including the corvettes, yes) except for the FACM... who "only" have VL MICA 8-)

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Interesting that they say the UK is the launch customer for the Sea Guardian. I wonder it this means we are buying two versions of the Protector, as we call the MQ-9, one for overland and one for over sea, or are we simply looking to use the origianl configuration we have on order for Maritime tasking. It would be nice if anyone can clarify the situation.

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