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Do you think Danish defense changed drastically the moment they committed themselves to the Iraq war and sending a large contingent to fight in Helmand? I'm aware they had a more robust role (than other nations in Yugoslavia) but with Iraq and Afghanistan, they were engaged in heavy warfighting as opposed to traditional peace-keeping. To be fair Denmark did not have to participate in Iraq and could have sent a token force to Helmand or sent troops to the more peaceful regions in the North but they went to the frontlines. Do you think their military has changed at all due to this decision? Such as comparing the Danish defense force of the 90's compared to the force today.

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arfah wrote:During the Cold War, Denmark planned to fight a rapid movement guerrilla campaign as they expected to be overrun by Soviet Naval Infantry.
what units were allocated for this role?

there wasn't any NATO forces set to backup the Danes and use it as a launching pad so to speak against the invading Soviets?

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Royal Danish Navy orders Rheinmetall’s Millennium gun for Absalon & Iver Huitfeldt-class Frigate
The Danish procurement authorities have contracted with the Düsseldorf-based Rheinmetall Group to supply additional 35mm Oerlikon Millennium guns for ships of the Royal Danish Navy. The order, which also includes spare parts and technical services, is worth around €20 million. The guns will be shipped in 2016.
http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.ph ... ew&id=3245

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The first batch, for Absalon(s) were not navalised properly. A brilliant system in my opinion, just to add.
- were sent back to the factory, wooden mock-ups carried in the turrets

This must be now for the next class? When those initial problems have been solved?
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I always thought that the title of this thread should be spelt DENMARK.

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'Danmark' is what the Danish call themselves ;) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denmark

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arfah wrote:I chose to call it 'Dane'mark as I have served with them (albeit for a very brief spell) in Afghanistan.

They were Great Danes.
Buh duh clash!

concur

In Afghanistan:

In Iraq:

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arfah wrote:I chose to call it 'Dane'mark as I have served with them (albeit for a very brief spell) in Afghanistan.

They were Great Danes.
Danemark is how it's spelled in French, for what it's worth :)

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arfah wrote:M113 Gavins.
Stop triggering me you trolling goit. :p

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Meaning the name "Gavin" on the M113. :p

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The second post on this tread poses a question that has been answered on TD very thoroughly in an article written by the contributor Phil.

For those who are not interested in how the present day Danish Army has evolved and why, here is a shot snapshot from their own home pages. Basically half of the strength is for homeland defence type of duties and the other half for peace keeping and warfighting abroad (an all volunteer force for that half):
"The total strength of the Army is approximately 8,400 troops, with an additional intake of approximately 4,100 conscripts.



The training structure of the Army

In general terms, the Army comprises soldiers at three different levels of training - conscripts, soldiers on a Reaction Force contract and professional soldiers.

Conscripts undergo the Army's basic training programme. They receive basic military training, which gives them the ability to operate in teams of approximately ten in a combat environment. They also acquire skills that will enable them to support the emergency services and contribute to the overall defence operations.



On completion of the basic army training programme, the conscripts are offered the opportunity to continue in the Army Reaction Force, which trains soldiers for international missions. For eight months, the soldiers train and prepare for the role they are to play in Afghanistan or Lebanon, for example, after which they are deployed on six-month missions.

After the soldiers have served a tour of duty abroad, they have two options. They can continue to serve as professional soldiers in the Army's operational units, or they can leave the Armed Forces. The professional soldiers can, at short notice, be deployed in international operations. Professional soldiers are normally deployed in international operations once every three years."

This thing
http://www2.forsvaret.dk/ENG/ORGANISATI ... mmand.aspx
had passed him (Phil, who had been inspired to write the article on TD after working with the Danes in A-stan; let's not forget that BG Viking was often on duty during the crazy Platoon House period of operations... sent to rescue those platoons before them running out of ammo or simply being overrun by an OpFor capable of locally concentrating force) unnoticed. May be a fairly recent development, so posting it here by way of an update if anyone wants to read the grounding article first.
- the revered but not yet sainted Absalon (Class of frigates, officially Command & Support) ships are more easily understood in the Arctic context
- they can put ashore a half-bn recce force with their vehicles. However, not as an amphibious landing operation, but by docking at a pier. So a rapid capability for flag showing, e.g. in Greenland (Ice Station Zebra scenario, anybody?)
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What is the current situation in relation to Denmark's F-16 replacement? Are they still going for the F-35 or are other candidates now more likely to get the contract?

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Terma to Support Royal Danish Navy Iver Huitfeldt Class Frigate BMD & IAMD Upgrade
The Danish Defence Acquisition and Logistics Organization (DALO) has entered into an agreement and signed a contract with Terma on Integrated Air and Missile Defense (IAMD). The aim is to provide DALO with study and advisory support within the Ballistic Missile Defense (BMD) and IAMD domains related to the Danish government’s decision to upgrade at least one of the IVER HUITFELDT class frigates to a BMD sensor role and offer this capability to the NATO BMD system.
http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.ph ... ew&id=3834

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Denmark CL-604 Challenger MPA Support NATO's Counter Piracy Operation Ocean Shield
Flying low over the waters near Somalia, Danish crews hunt for indicators of illegal activities across a wide stretch of ocean near the east African coast. While pirate attacks have been few in the last couple of years, the conditions which lead to piracy are still present and, as such, interested nations must remain vigilant. The Danish detachment is participating in part of a NATO effort that has been on going since 2008 to deter and disrupt pirate attacks...
http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.ph ... ew&id=3933

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xav wrote: Terma to Support Royal Danish Navy Iver Huitfeldt Class Frigate BMD & IAMD Upgrade
The Danish Defence Acquisition and Logistics Organization (DALO) has entered into an agreement and signed a contract with Terma on Integrated Air and Missile Defense (IAMD). The aim is to provide DALO with study and advisory support within the Ballistic Missile Defense (BMD) and IAMD domains related to the Danish government’s decision to upgrade at least one of the IVER HUITFELDT class frigates to a BMD sensor role and offer this capability to the NATO BMD system.
http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.ph ... ew&id=3834
When this plan was first voiced, the Russian ambassador to Denmark did not mince his words:

"We will then target them with nukes"
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Danish frigate Iver Huitfeldt tests DCNS’ torpedo decoy system CANTO
Danish Navy frigate Iver Huitfeldt has recently tested the CANTO® torpedo decoy system off the coast of North Zealand, Denmark.

The frigate served as a platform for French DCNS, UK’s Chemring Countermeasures and Danish Terma to conduct joint operational trials of their torpedo defence solution.

This solution integrates Terma’s C-Guard decoy launching system with DCNS’ CANTO torpedo decoy and the Chemring Launch Module.

The main purpose of the trials was to confirm the live operation of the CANTO 130 mm decoy in its purpose to lure incoming torpedoes from their original target; the ship launching the decoy.

Additionally, the trials aimed to prove the performance of the Chemring launch module and the Terma C-Guard ability to launch the decoy.
https://navaltoday.com/2016/06/03/danis ... tem-canto/

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