Most definitely tiltrotors are more expensive and there will be less of them so they will support fewer units but it is what the direction of travel seems to be.Repulse wrote: ↑18 Apr 2023, 07:43Would agree with moving Army units to Scandinavia thru a port with sea control of the North Atlantic makes sense. Tilt rotors from Scotland sounds an expensive and dangerous dream, ok for raiding but logistics/scale size for a full war it would be “all fur and no knickers”. And that’s the reality most of this doesn’t have to be glamorous it has to be effective.SW1 wrote: ↑17 Apr 2023, 23:05 You could but you could also say that our nato commitment could be centred around JEF with the army brigade being deployed thru a port rather than over a beach into Scandinavia. We would be defending the Nordic countries not retaking them.
If the future really is tiltrotor with marine raiding/fwd recon then the commandos would be flown in from northern Scotland in said tiltrotors and transport a/c with a sea element maybe in ribs operating up the coast and fjords with teams calling in long range fires to deny opposing forces access ahead of the Nordic and army brigades arriving in position..
Where I do have a different view is that the ability to flank the enemy and disrupt their supply lines through the ability to move company level sized units easily around the Littoral zone in and up the fjords needs to be part of the strategy.
This is where smaller amphibious units such as LCVPs and LCUs get crucial, but is also an area where I think new larger landing ships like the US LSMs I’ve pointed above, look interesting. They would provide the ability to act as forward operating bases and with a helipad able to be easily resupplied with troops and support.
In fact if the UK ambition was just JEF and global SF raids, you could argue that the UK needs Points to transport kit to a port, LSMs to give Littoral options and CVFs+LPDs for OTH raids.
Does the RM seem to be getting set up for anything other than raids and recon on snowmobiles in the artic north?
Once you bring in the logistics support thru a port with the army brigade it is that logistics that supports all deployed units, hence the need to move an army brigade quickly for larger war fighting. I would repeat you are defending the nordics not retaking them.
When a company strength of RM were tasked with reinforcing natos eastern border as Russia invaded Ukraine how did they get to Poland?
And if you are talking about what happens elsewhere then I would suggest operation Langer in East Timor would be an example to follow. HMS Glasgow supporting a Australian task group supported by a special forces unit and Gurkha company flown in to support the Australian task group.