UK Shipbuilding

[Poiuytrewq]

Privately funded so not sure what effect a change of government has.

Some governments are more enthusiastic about building ships than others.

Would the construction of three 135m HADR ships be welcomed in Birkenhead for example?

More of a priority for a different administration than building warships?

Who knows?

[new guy]

The simple fact is we have enough demand and commitments in HADR that the Gov should have dedicated ships.
Joint RN & FCDO.

[Poiuytrewq]

More progress

https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/news-and-l ... port-ships

[Jackstar]

[new guy]

might not be long enough for T83

[SKB]

Portsmouth's shiphall is 200m long and 60m wide...

[Tempest414]

But Portsmouth is not in Scotland so of no use to HMT what so ever

[sol]

might not be long enough for T83

There is a very few destroyers with length over 160m-165m, for example Arleigh Burke-class destroyer later batches are 155m long. But I guess, in the worst case they could keep that door open and make ships protruding outside hall for couple of meters when building comes into that stage.

[new guy]

might not be long enough for T83

There is a very few destroyers with length over 160m-165m, for example Arleigh Burke-class destroyer later batches are 155m long. But I guess, in the worst case they could keep that door open and make ships protruding outside hall for couple of meters when building comes into that stage.

All I know is that T26 is already 150, so what about the next generation? To be fare, we don't know what that generation (T83) will look like so...

[new guy]

The Australian A$535 million/£280 million upgrade to turn Osbourne into a state of the art shipyard for the Hunter, the cost looks very reasonable considering that the 8 T26's costing £10 billion, the impression is it makes the upgrade to Govan shipyard look half-hearted.

[sol]

The Australian A$535 million/£280 million upgrade to turn Osbourne into a state of the art shipyard for the Hunter, the cost looks very reasonable considering that the 8 T26's costing £10 billion, the impression is it makes the upgrade to Govan shipyard look half-hearted.

Well it was also supposed to be main shipyard for future submarines. Still ...

The largest building in the new complex is known as Building 22, and is 80 metres (260 ft) high with a footprint of 170 by 50 metres (560 ft × 160 ft), large enough for assembly of two frigates other than the upper superstructure.

... could be actually somewhat smaller than Govan's new 170 by 80 metres hall (not sure how high it would be). Main advantage of Osborn is probably space for extension compared to Govan.

[sol]

Double post

[new guy]

hmmm, AH140 ?

[Poiuytrewq]

The Australian A$535 million/£280 million upgrade to turn Osbourne into a state of the art shipyard for the Hunter, the cost looks very reasonable considering that the 8 T26's costing £10 billion, the impression is it makes the upgrade to Govan shipyard look half-hearted.

Well it was also supposed to be main shipyard for future submarines. Still ...

And if the Navantia cheerleaders get the Hunters cancelled and 4 extra Hobart’s built in Spain what does Osborne build? If it’s 6x A140’s by Babcock that will take around 7 years.

Looks like a great way to get the RAN a credible escort fleet by 2030 but also a great way to destroy Australian naval shipbuilding for a generation.

[Poiuytrewq]

Great news for Belfast.
https://www.energyvoice.com/oilandgas/a ... rade-work/

[Poiuytrewq]

I had to check the date on this one.

[Jdam]

Its now a Catch 22, they have no work for after the ferries so the work force are in no hurry to finish them, they cant get more work cause of how they have handled these ferries.

[wargame_insomniac]

Its now a Catch 22, they have no work for after the ferries so the work force are in no hurry to finish them, they cant get more work cause of how they have handled these ferries.

Its a damming indictment of the other Scottish Shipyards that not even the Scottish Government will order even simple OPV's from them to cover Scottish Fishery Protection.

By other Scottish Shipyards I am excluding Govan and Rosyth. From memory is it Ferguson Marine that was building those ferries??

[Jdam]

Excluding Govan and Rosyth, I don't think there is any other Scottish Shipyards except Ferguson Marine.

Happy to be correct on that one.

[jimthelad]

Also MacDuff who could build up 35m vessels.

[Tempest414]

Its now a Catch 22, they have no work for after the ferries so the work force are in no hurry to finish them, they cant get more work cause of how they have handled these ferries.

Its a damming indictment of the other Scottish Shipyards that not even the Scottish Government will order even simple OPV's from them to cover Scottish Fishery Protection.

By other Scottish Shipyards I am excluding Govan and Rosyth. From memory is it Ferguson Marine that was building those ferries??

And then they have the brass balls to complain that the UK government is not investing in Scottish ship building twats

[Jackstar]

Cammell Laird & A&P Group consolidation.
I believe they've worked together on building blocks for the Type 26's.

[new guy]

Cammell Laird & A&P Group consolidation.
I believe they've worked together on building blocks for the Type 26's.

Not surprising; They were already tied together.

[new guy]

£1.2bn, across 3 yards.
Babcock for smaller stuff,
H&W for the large things,
Glasgow for the fighty things.

How would you split it?

1 ship per yard per year?
£400m each?
e.c.t.

[new guy]

£1.2bn, across 3 yards.
Babcock for smaller stuff,
H&W for the large things,
Glasgow for the fighty things.

How would you split it?

1 ship per yard per year?
£400m each?
e.c.t.

what is that, 1 large ship / support ship, 1 escort ship, 2 minor vessels per year.